Comments on: H&H “The Secret” Spoon vs. Johnson Silver Minnow [Comparison Review]

By: Towboater

Towboater — Mon, 03 Aug 2020 22:19:31 +0000

In reply to Luke Simonds. That Red Cap is designed to keep the front of your spoon from catching grass as you throwing it in the ponds

By: Luke Simonds

Luke Simonds — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 09:52:29 +0000

In reply to Ted Springer. If you're watching the video in Youtube, you can actually have it play in slow-mo by clicking on the Settings icon and toggling the "Playback Speed" settings.

By: Luke Simonds

Luke Simonds — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 09:50:12 +0000

In reply to Ted Springer. Good eye Ted! They do seem to spend more time than expected hookside down when looking at the underwater footage. It seems like the core reason is that the hook is either down or sideways at the end of the wobbles so it spends some time paused there as it changes directions. This varies based on spoon shape (as seen on the Silver Minnow vs. the Aquadream) and retrieve speed, so I haven't seen a all encompassing theme for exactly how long a spoon stays in one position of another.

By: Ted Springer

Ted Springer — Tue, 23 Jun 2020 23:49:37 +0000

I meant to also say I tried to verify the hook up/ hook down action by pausing the underwater video every few frames to confirm what I thought I was seeing.

By: Ted Springer

Ted Springer — Tue, 23 Jun 2020 23:42:30 +0000

Luke, while watching this video, I was reminded of something I thought I observed in your Aqua Dream vs. Johnson Silver Minnow and other underwater demos. I was shocked to see how much time both spoons spend swimming hook down rather than hook up. I had always assumed they swim basically hook up and only go hook down when they are helicoptering (twisting). I was reminded to go back and look at the previous videos because when you were discussing the swimming action of the Johnson spoon in this current video you demonstrated it wobbling hook up. Unless my eyes are deceiving me, underwater footage shows them often swimming hook down and flipping back over (twisting) even at the slow retrieve speeds in your pool demo. What has been your assumption/observation on this?

By: Luke Simonds

Luke Simonds — Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:41:37 +0000

In reply to Stephen Weiss. Thanks for making time to leave the comment Stephen!

By: Luke Simonds

Luke Simonds — Mon, 22 Jun 2020 13:09:28 +0000

In reply to Marvin Sexton. Yes, I'm not at all a fan of that red cap... I think it would be better to keep it off altogether.

By: Luke Simonds

Luke Simonds — Mon, 22 Jun 2020 13:08:28 +0000

In reply to Marvin Sexton. Great points Marvin! My assumption for the spoons seeming to not work quite as well in the summer months is because the baitfish are bigger than the winter so the size of the even a 1/2 oz spoon is not as big as the prey that the predators are honed in on during the summer and fall months.

By: Marvin Sexton

Marvin Sexton — Mon, 22 Jun 2020 02:38:53 +0000

Sorry forgot to mention–when you push the red cap down to cover the swivel, it impedes the swivel from swiveling normally.

By: Marvin Sexton

Marvin Sexton — Mon, 22 Jun 2020 02:36:42 +0000

I fish weedless spoons almost exclusively when sight fishing grass flats in the winter. I mostly fish around West Bay, PCB where the water is incredibly shallow. I can cover a ton of water without getting hung up, and they work excellent for sight casting in 6 inches of water–more accurate and more weedless than soft plastics . They don’t seem to work as well in the warmer months, probably because more natural bait around?? (any thoughts Luke?). The swivel just creates more surface area for weeds to hang up–the H&H tip profile much larger than the Johnson with a loop knot (tied so tag end points back to the lure) even with the red piece which I find unhelpful. Swivel not needed–I have no line twist issue with probably 1000 casts using 10# braid plus leader. Also the loop on the Johnson is welded on and smooth as opposed to the H&H which is a punched hole and will snag more with or without a ring.